This conversation between two luminaries of modern science: Neil deGrasse Tyson, astrophysicist and host of NOVA and evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins is as poetic as it is informative, and well worth the time it takes to listen.

Professor Dawkins says that science is the poetry of reality. We take pleasure in his and Professor Tyson’s expanded bandwidth…

We should begin by noting that what we can see with our sense organs is an extremely narrow band of what there is to see. I see this as a kind of symbol of how limited our understanding of the universe is…it’s humbling how blind we actually are. Richard Dawkins

At sea your horizon is a perfect circle centered on you…everyone has a horizon at sea. We have a horizon in the universe, as does every galaxy.

For any part of the universe the horizon is the bit before the expanding universe has disappeared over the horizon…Neil deGrasse Tyson